滴水 发表于 2013-4-8 13:31:08

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4.15 复查
医生认为CT才做一个月,结果稳定,这次查个血就够了,我认同,上次就CA125增长比较多,这次开单查了CEA、CA125、CA153、CA199,NSE。去年9月之前没记录,尚未找到规律,再来几次可能就知道哪个敏感了。
如果2992还有效,是否改成吃8停5?目前状态很好,乳铁蛋白有奇效?

滴水 发表于 2013-4-17 15:19:53

4.17 昨天抽了血,今天出报告:
CEA 1.76
CA125 162.6 继续升高,估计2992耐药或部分耐药了
CA199 8.48
CA153 17.82
NSE 14.95

滴水 发表于 2013-4-17 15:23:09

CT上个月做稳定,因此这次未做,CA125继续上升,纠结要不要化疗。医生提议目前生活质量很好,以CT为准,暂不管指标上升。
纠结ing

滴水 发表于 2013-4-17 21:15:40

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现在考虑的方案:
1、试试易(平安老师认为肺癌不试试易可惜)
2、2992+半量xl184
3、2992加量
凡德有试过,无效


爱老虎油! 2013/4/17 星期三 18:56:31
易用过吗?没用过试试易吧,肺,不用易太可惜了
滴水(luxd)20:20:13
平安姐,我父亲是鳞、吸烟,是不是也试试
滴水(luxd)20:34:25
之前就是考虑鳞+男性+吸烟,直接上的特。现在考虑:
1、试试易
2、2992+半量xl184
3、2992加量
凡德有试过,无效
爱老虎油!21:31:42
如果病情紧急就上2,不紧急就试试易

滴水 发表于 2013-4-18 11:27:03

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考虑方案4:替吉奥

S-1, an oral fluoropyrimidine derivative, has been approved for the treatment of non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC) in Japan. In the present study, the efficacy and safety of S-1 monotherapy for elderly patients with previously treated NSCLC were retrospectively evaluated, and the efficacy of S-1 monotherapy was compared by histopathological type. This retrospective study included 54 patients with advanced or recurrent NSCLC who had received S-1 monotherapy following the failure of previous chemotherapy regimens at our institutes. Patient outcomes were compared based on their age and histopathological type. S-1 was administered orally, twice daily, while the duration and interval were modified according to the medical condition of each patient. The default delivery schedule, the mean number of S-1 cycles, did not differ significantly between the two age groups (<70 and ≥70 years). The rate of therapy discontinuation, schedule modification or dose reduction due to intolerable toxicities or patient refusal was relatively frequent in the older group (40.7 and 55.6% for ages <70 and ≥70 years, respectively; p=0.414), and the incidence of grade 3 anemia was relatively high in the older group (3.7 and 18.5%, respectively; p=0.192). The response rates (13.0 and 4.8%, respectively; p=0.609) and disease control rates (39.1 and 33.3%, respectively; p=0.761) did not differ significantly between the two age groups. According to histopathological type, the disease control rate was significantly higher in adenocarcinoma (57.9%) compared to non-adenocarcinoma (20.0%, p=0.013). Thus, S-1 monotherapy may be equally effective and tolerated in patients <70 years and those ≥70 years. Additionally, adenocarcinoma may have a higher disease control rate than non-adenocarcinoma.

替的疾病控制率,腺比非腺高很多:57.9%vs20%

滴水 发表于 2013-4-18 13:11:06

S-1联合铂类,效果与病理类型无关(即鳞和腺相当),这与培美不同,可能是作用TS的方式不同。
http://ar.iiarjournals.org/content/30/7/2985.full.pdf
单药却与病理类型有关?

滴水 发表于 2013-4-18 21:25:23

综合平安老师、老马建议和自己判断,决定采用方案四,口服替吉奥。原因:
1、特、2992均已耐药,易有效的可能性很低;
2、2992趋于耐药,如果没有有效手段,反正都要化疗了,口服替是比较轻松的化疗方案;
3、如果不准备把2992用绝,联用方案也先不考虑:
--2992+184,平安老师认为在危急的时候用;
--2992+替http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20530710,2992已经耐药,就先不考虑联用了;
5、如果替有效,那怕只是稳定,也为切换回特创造条件,如果无效,就去多西他赛化疗。
还有什么要考虑的?每次情况变化,做决定都是犹豫不决。

滴水 发表于 2013-4-21 17:45:31

4.22 开始替吉奥,60mg bid

Belinda 发表于 2013-4-22 14:28:10

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大海父 发表于 2013-4-24 13:51:18

论坛里有好几家在用替,关注中。
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